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I like reading those articles, but when I’m most worried about chain line, I just jump on my track bike, LOL.
I think anything bigger than a 46T chain ring is just silly. I can do anything I want on that. Guess I don’t spend enough time at full power going down mountains. Still at 40+mph I think pedaling starts to do more harm than good.
Certainly using bigger cogs and cassettes increases the efficiency of your drivetrain.

HollyBoni wrote:With a 10-42 my Rival 1 rear derailleur regularly turns into a bush.
I’m a fan of big rings, but I use small ring (36t) because that puts me in the section of the cassette where the gaps are small. With a big ring most gravel bikes are going to have big jumps. I’m more concerned about the efficiency of my legs vs my drivetrain.
After much sole searching, I went out of my way to get 2x for the gravel bike. I don’t shift much, but the chainring I need for a long solo gravel ride is much different than for a fast paceline on the road. I get tired of manually chainring the chainring based on the ride I’m doing that day.
chas wrote:I’m a fan of big rings, but I use small ring (36t) because that puts me in the section of the cassette where the gaps are small. I’m more concerned about the efficiency of my legs vs my drivetrain.
Slim wrote:@NoCoGreg...
Since we are on this topic, have you considered replacing the 50t big ring with a 48 on that bike as well? Since you say that is mostly used on flatter terrain, you wouldn’t miss the 5% lower top end right? Or is it used for racing, where you have to sprint on the flat at high speed?
Actually I reread my post and I misstated the cassette. Campy 10 speed only offers a 13/29 so the gearing on that bike actually is much narrower and I do need the 50t to get a sufficiently big gear with only a 13t in back.NoCoGreg wrote:Want another reason to go with a 2X setup?
https://www.velonews.com/2019/05/bikes-and-tech/gear-issue-friction-differences-between-1x-and-2x-drivetrains_493185
Slim wrote:As I mentioned above, I was ready to switch back to 2x on my next gravel bike, due to the drivetrain efficiencies and smaller gearing steps offers by the 2 system, But when I went to buy my Warbird last week, only the Apex 1 was in stock in my size, so I am still on 1x,
Since I am stuck with the 1x, I am trying to maximize efficiency by using a Shimano cassette (11-46) vs a SRAM Xd cassette (10-42) of the same range.
I wish they had compared this set up as well, and that they had used an identical chain.
Using the 11-46 cassette means that in the middle and harder gear combos, efficiency is identical to the 2x (since it would be the same size chainring and cog and according to the test, the 1x chainring is in the same location as the big ring of the 2x).
That would leave only the easy gearing (far left side of graph) where the 2x is more efficient. Even there the difference would be smaller than it is now, because the cog and chainring would bigger.
I would look something like this, where I drew in a hypothetical 53`x11-46 1x system(which would have the same gear range as the tested 48x10-42, since everything is 10% bigger).![]()