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So how did you accommodate for the reach? Size down the frame? Custom? Short stem? I'm not worried about swapping out handlebars. I have a mountain bike. If I want flatbars, I'll ride that. If I do a MonsterCX style bike...it will be in that configuration all the time.
Right now I'm just in research and curiosity mode. I'd likely go with something that can fit 27.5+/29".
ashpioletrev wrote:Some more pictures
Nubster wrote:So how did you accommodate for the reach? Size down the frame? Custom? Short stem?
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/men/bikes/road/performance/langster-durango/118119
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/men/bikes/road/performance/langster/115196
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/men/bikes/road/performance/langster-street/115674
chas wrote:
Y'all have me scratching my head on this one.
The bikes I have that are designed as flat bar and drops don't have different stems. for different bars. If you are riding on the top of the bar, it doesn't make any difference if it is a flat bar, bull horn, or drop bar. If you are on the hoods or in the drops, you need a little extra reach, and your bars should give that to you naturally.
Of course it all depends on the bar, its reach, and the rider preference. But, start with the same stem and go from there.
Here is one bike with
- Flat bars
- drob bars
- bull horns.
All of them (for the same 54cm frame) use 100mm stem and have 390mm reach.https://www.specialized.com/us/en/men/bikes/road/performance/langster-durango/118119
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/men/bikes/road/performance/langster/115196
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/men/bikes/road/performance/langster-street/115674
I think what is missing from this is a simple comparison of two bikes. Take a drop bar bike you like - look up the geo. Find the stack and reach. Compare that stack and reach with a flat bar bike you like. Whats the difference? I'll show you two of my bikes as an example.
Trek Crockett:
Size 61
Stack 62.4
Reach 39.7
Santa Cruz Highball CC:
Size XL
Stack 63.3
Reach 45.0
What those numbers mean is all things remaining constant. Think I pulled the bars and shifters off the Crockett (running a 110 stem now) I would need to run a 60mm stem to keep the feel consistent. I would also need to run 10mm more spacers under the stem (assuming the bike is rigid and the stack wont drop at sag because rigid = no sag).
Makes sense if you are looking at different frames. We were talking about converting a frame.
My example was using the same frame, like the original question. If set up right, you don’t need to change anything. Riding on top of the flat bar, or on top of drop bars, you would need the same stem. Yes, you should be lower and more stretched on the hoods or drops. You don’t need to change the stem to do this if your bike is set up properly. To over simplify it: in any position, ideally your handlebars are going to block the view of your hub.
Ultimately there is no right or wrong. There is user preference.
Whether I use a flat bar or drop bar, I can use the same stem.
But sometimes my mood changes.I use a shorter stem with the bull horns because I like to be a little more upright riding on top of the bars and a little less stretched when grabbing the horns. Personal preference.
In other cases, I’ll use a long and low stem to get a flat bar to simulate my position when riding on the hoods. Kinda depends on my mood.
So, I start with the same stem. Then decide if I want to be a little more upright or a little more stretched out. Usually 20mm is enough of a change. Anything more than 20-30mm is going to significantly change the steering of the bike…
NoCoGreg wrote:
To a previous comment - many of the drop bar conversions do use v-brakes. There are several brake lever manufacturers (Cane Creek, Tektro, others) with models specific for v-brakes...
Cheers,
Greg