MOOTS Routt YBB

cannot justify the $2000 price increase from lightspeed, also suspension should really comes from the tire

Involuntarysoul wrote:cannot justify the $2000 price increase from lightspeed, also in my opinon suspension should really comes from the tire

FIFY

^ lol


i'm super happy this has finally arrived btw. i remember asking them last year if they would put it on the routt and they said, "no plans to do that!"

well... i guess things changed?

If you're a smaller rider (say, size 55 and below), the bigger concern for me would be toe overlap with tires at the large end of the range.  If I can't fit a 700x45 tire in without enough toe clearance to feel safe, then it's sort of a red herring.  I'd like to see this type of bike designed around 650b wheels for smaller sizes and 700c wheels for larger sizes.  Sure, as designed you can put 650b wheels with 47-52mm tires on this for more volume if toe overlap is an issue, but the bike then looks kinda goofy with those long chainstays and a lower bottom bracket height, which is not what I want if making this kind of investment.  I get why all sizes of carbon bike models are typically designed around one wheel size given the cost of tooling, but it seems like this would be doable for a metal bike builder like Moots who makes frames one at a time as they're ordered.

OffB10Path wrote:If you're a smaller rider (say, size 55 and below), the bigger concern for me would be toe overlap with tires at the large end of the range.  If I can't fit a 700x45 tire in without enough toe clearance to feel safe, then it's sort of a red herring.  I'd like to see this type of bike designed around 650b wheels for smaller sizes and 700c wheels for larger sizes.  Sure, as designed you can put 650b wheels with 47-52mm tires on this for more volume if toe overlap is an issue, but the bike then looks kinda goofy with those long chainstays and a lower bottom bracket height, which is not what I want if making this kind of investment.  I get why all sizes of carbon bike models are typically designed around one wheel size given the cost of tooling, but it seems like this would be doable for a metal bike builder like Moots who makes frames one at a time as they're ordered.

I agree with you.  My wife is 5' 1".  I built a Norco Search XR carbon for her in size 48.  In the smaller sizes its designed around 650b wheels and it makes the bike fit her so much better. 

ljsmith wrote:

I agree with you.  My wife is 5' 1".  I built a Norco Search XR carbon for her in size 48.  In the smaller sizes its designed around 650b wheels and it makes the bike fit her so much better. 

Nice...my wife is 5' even and looked at the Search awhile back, too.  Looks like a great choice.

ljsmith wrote:I just saw on the home page that MOOTS is finally making a Routt YBB.  I really can't believe it took them this long to make this bike since they have had similar bikes in the past.  It looks perfect.  Clearance for 700 x 45 or 650b x 52 with room for a compact double crank.  My only concern would be the 437mm chainstay length (probably needed for the tire clearance with the compact crank), but without riding one its hard to say how much that would matter.  I'm not in the market for a bike right now, but I just thought this looked very interesting.

https://moots.com/bike/routt-ybb/

 

  Moots has made the YBB Routt for years, I've had mine a little over four years.  Back then the Routt 45 wasn't available in the YBB config, it's the Routt 45 that's new.  The Routt 45 has always had the extra long chainstay, I think it's an intentional part of that platform.  When I got mine (the regular Routt, not the 45), tire clearance was listed as 35c.  I've got wide Nox Composite rims with 34c tires with no room to spare.  The new Routts (not the Routt 45) now have 38c clearance.  The YBB is very nice, although I wouldn't want it on a 100% road ride.