Just saying: New York is NOT in New England.

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Djg21-2
37 posts
#1May 29, 2021, 9:20 PM
Can the forum be be renamed New York and New England?
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TwoWheeler
177 posts
#2May 31, 2021, 7:34 AM
We often fall in the cracks between “New England” and “Mid-Atlantic”.
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Djg21-2
37 posts
#3May 31, 2021, 2:06 PM
TwoWheeler wrote:We often fall in the cracks between “New England” and “Mid-Atlantic”.

Having been raised in CT and then having lived and gone to school in both ME and VT (all of which are in New England), I ultimately made it to the Rockies where I was endlessly teased by friends about being from New Yawk (which meant to them anything east of the the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon Line). Then career and family choices actually took me first to NYC and then to Upstate NY, which might as well be another state. The Giants suck and Tom Brady and Gronk disappointed me. ;->
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stu
646 posts
#4May 31, 2021, 2:57 PM
Djg21 wrote:... Then career and family choices actually took me first to NYC and then to Upstate NY, which might as well be another state ...
As San Francisco and Fresno are technically in the same state but might as well be on different planets.
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TheSubaruGuru
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#5Jun 1, 2021, 4:31 AM
Grew up in RI (a suburb of Newport), where toggling between the Yanks and Sox caused much cognitive dissonance in my youth. We even had our own dialect, including shouting a bastardization of the 50th State when greeting others (Hawaya?). Clearly different from Big Apple, Boston...and Cape Cod accents. Frappes (aka milk shakes et al to others) were called "cabinets", and I didn't drink milk without the local Eclipse Coffee Syrup in it until puberty. Little Rhody...still a wildly dysfunctional place....
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John Z
174 posts
#6Jun 1, 2021, 10:15 AM
Let's not forget New Jersey as well, which also should be included in Mid-Atlantic.
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softreset
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#7Jun 1, 2021, 10:45 AM
How about tri-state area and just lump NY/NJ/CT in it? Then you can keep your New England and Mid-Atlantic.
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Djg21-2
37 posts
#8Jun 1, 2021, 10:55 AMedited
Or just include the same states and call it the “Northeast.”
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clarksonxc
358 posts
#9Jun 4, 2021, 8:10 AM
Living just outside Buffalo, I feel the EXACT same way! Too far east for the Midwest/Great Lakes region, too far north and west for the mid-atlantic or New England. There is some good gravel in Upstate NY, if you know where to look.
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TheSubaruGuru
86 posts
#10Jun 4, 2021, 11:25 AM
We in Boston and north have been arguing annually for the adoption of Atlantic time so as to not bother with the Daylight Savings Time swapperoo twice/annum. Let the Connecticut/NYC commuters figure out where the line will be. It'd be great to get another hour of evening cycling in the winter...we need all the sun we can get to melt icycle'd beards and frozen hands!
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lml999
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#11Jan 26, 2024, 10:04 AM
New England and the "Tristate Area" should be separate forums. New York doesn't align with New England...in oh so many ways. 🙂
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TwoWheeler
177 posts
#12Jan 29, 2024, 5:11 PM
New England and the "Tristate Area" should be separate forums. New York doesn't align with New England...in oh so many ways. 🙂
What about the rest of the state north of the Tappan Zee?
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lml999
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#13Jan 29, 2024, 8:47 PM
Come on @TwoWheeler, you know the answer to that. Upstate NY is its own wonderful nation, and the fewer New Yorkers know about it, the better. 🙂

Seriously, it is totally different from anything south of the TZ bridge, and it's different from much/most of New England. Riding is different, people are different, climate is different. (Not better/worse, just different).

I am quite fond of the area, having spent four years in the Chenango Valley and spending a fair amount of time roaming upstate with a women's college ice hockey team. (Lots more to that story, but not relevant to this thread...I think... 🙂 )
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Jumbo
123 posts
#14Feb 2, 2024, 7:51 PM
What about the rest of the state north of the Tappan Zee?
I think you're referring to the Mario Cuomo Bridge. Ha ha.

Seriously, though, it's nice here (I'm in the mid hudson valley). Pretty different from VT, where I'm originally from. Very different soil, for one thing, makes riding off pavement different.
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TwoWheeler
177 posts
#15Feb 3, 2024, 9:44 AM
I think you're referring to the Mario Cuomo Bridge. Ha ha.

Seriously, though, it's nice here (I'm in the mid hudson valley). Pretty different from VT, where I'm originally from. Very different soil, for one thing, makes riding off pavement different.
I kind of have a foot in both worlds - both my parents were born and raised in Brooklyn and my sister was born there. I was born in NJ, but we moved to the Syracuse area when I was 7, been here ever since.

We don’t really have any “proper” gravel, but tons of backroads and snowmobile trails - and of course the Erie Canal. (My sister describes it as “boring” but I find it nice to be able to just put my head down and go, for an hour or two).

The gravel bike suits my style, which can best be described as “random”. I have one Garmin track where you can see me do a U-turn in the road where I went past the end of a snowmobile trail and said: “Hey….wait a minute…”. I went back and jumped on the trail through the state park…because I could.😁

Any mountain biking involves a drive of an hour or so, so I don’t do much of that anymore.
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Djg21-2
37 posts
#16Feb 4, 2024, 12:42 PM
I kind of have a foot in both worlds - both my parents were born and raised in Brooklyn and my sister was born there. I was born in NJ, but we moved to the Syracuse area when I was 7, been here ever since.

We don’t really have any “proper” gravel, but tons of backroads and snowmobile trails - and of course the Erie Canal. (My sister describes it as “boring” but I find it nice to be able to just put my head down and go, for an hour or two).

The gravel bike suits my style, which can best be described as “random”. I have one Garmin track where you can see me do a U-turn in the road where I went past the end of a snowmobile trail and said: “Hey….wait a minute…”. I went back and jumped on the trail through the state park…because I could.😁

Any mountain biking involves a drive of an hour or so, so I don’t do much of that anymore.
There is decent gravel/dirt relatively pretty close to Syracuse. You aren’t too far from the Tugg Hill Plateau, which has a lot of dirt. The Northwind classic gravel was really fun last season, and it’s the State championship this year. https://www.northwindsclassic.com/#/. It’s odd to have a course in “New England” or the eastern part of upstate NY that doesn’t have 1,000 feet of elevation gain for every 10-15 miles. There also is a lot of stuff south of you, and in the Finger Lakes. Granted there may not be much directly out the door, but it’s pretty accessible. https://gravelmap.com/map#_=8.28/42.862/-76.704
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lml999
4 posts
#17Feb 12, 2024, 8:54 AM
All this having been said, I found some great gravel/trail riding in Yonkers, just north of Tuckahoe Road. Extensive trail network, nicely groomed. I didn't have a bike with me at the time, so I got in a fabulous trail run...just the thing to do before a relative's wedding ceremony!
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