New Michelin Power Adventure

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RideWithPride
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#1Jun 2, 2023, 11:18 PMedited
Comes only in 700 size in 30, 36, 42 and 47mm sizes. Looks like a good option. https://www.cyclingweekly.com/products/michelin-releases-power-adventure-gravel-tire-in-us-ahead-of-unbound
https://michelinmedia.com/michelinpoweradventure/
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stu
646 posts
#2Jun 3, 2023, 12:59 AM
Thanks for posting that!

FWIW the BRR test of the 2022 Power Gravel showed (among gravel tires) mediocre rolling resistance, weak wet grip, good tread puncture resistance, and excellent sidewall puncture resistance. If the Power Adventure is the same except for the tread pattern I would expect somewhat better rolling resistance and wet grip. If the rubber and/or casing are different then I have no idea. So far the Power Adventure is not getting a lot of votes on BRR.
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Volsung
878 posts
#3Jun 3, 2023, 9:58 AM
That's because people want to measure the same tires in 2mm increments rather then find out about something new.
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RideWithPride
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#4Jun 3, 2023, 11:47 AM
stu wrote:
Thanks for posting that!

FWIW the BRR test of the 2022 Power Gravel showed (among gravel tires) mediocre rolling resistance, weak wet grip, good tread puncture resistance, and excellent sidewall puncture resistance. If the Power Adventure is the same except for the tread pattern I would expect somewhat better rolling resistance and wet grip. If the rubber and/or casing are different then I have no idea. So far the Power Adventure is not getting a lot of votes on BRR.
I saw that after seeing this tire announced. The 35mm, which they tested in 2020 was faster, but a bit less durable. They weren't sure if it was the size difference or compound difference as the 40mm had around 0.3mm taller knobs.

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RideWithPride
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#5Jun 3, 2023, 11:47 AM
Volsung wrote:
That's because people want to measure the same tires in 2mm increments rather then find out about something new.
Uh not sure what you mean. Could you please elaborate?
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stu
646 posts
#6Jun 3, 2023, 2:44 PM
The tires BRR tests are chosen by a vote of the paying members. Those members often vote for the same tire in different sizes, which IMHO is a waste of time and resources since the results are almost always the same. I just contacted BRR and suggested a few ways to reduce the incidence of those duplicate tests.
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Volsung
878 posts
#7Jun 4, 2023, 10:51 AM
They even re-test the same tire in the same size occasionally. Jarno does 4 or 5 tests a month so it's super annoying to waste them on superfluous tests.

I kept voting for Soma SVs just to get them to branch out from the same top few brands, but they dropped off the list due to lack of interest. Now I'm voting for Ultradynamico tires.

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stu
646 posts
#8Jun 4, 2023, 2:34 PM
Volsung wrote:
I kept voting for Soma SVs just to get them to branch out from the same top few brands, but they dropped off the list due to lack of interest. Now I'm voting for Ultradynamico tires.

Are Ultradynamico tires also made by Panaracer?

FWIW I think some of the smaller brands just don't have the resources to develop really great tires. What they can do is emphasize one characteristic at the expense of another, like Rene Herse does with their paper-thin casings.
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ccand51997
265 posts
#9Jun 4, 2023, 7:05 PMedited
stu wrote:
The tires BRR tests are chosen by a vote of the paying members. Those members often vote for the same tire in different sizes, which IMHO is a waste of time and resources since the results are almost always the same. I just contacted BRR and suggested a few ways to reduce the incidence of those duplicate tests

I signed up for a Pro account and paid to access some of the old info, but was really surprised at the list of tires that have been put forth. He used to just test the middle tire in a range but now he sort of has to bow to the wishes of the masses. The top vote right now is about talcum powder, which is odd because I'm pretty sure he believes that the less movement between the tires, the better it is for rr.
The last two tires he tested were both size variations on previously tested tires and they were both pretty much what you expected.
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RideWithPride
96 posts
#10Jun 5, 2023, 4:45 PM
Volsung wrote:
They even re-test the same tire in the same size occasionally. Jarno does 4 or 5 tests a month so it's super annoying to waste them on superfluous tests.

I kept voting for Soma SVs just to get them to branch out from the same top few brands, but they dropped off the list due to lack of interest. Now I'm voting for Ultradynamico tires.

where is this list we can vote on cause I'd like to see both those brands reviewed.
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stu
646 posts
#11Jun 5, 2023, 5:52 PM
RideWithPride wrote:
where is this list we can vote on cause I'd like to see both those brands reviewed.
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/brr-pro/dashboard

I think the cost is $10 per year.

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stu
646 posts
#12Jun 14, 2023, 4:49 PM
Volsung wrote:.. I kept voting for Soma SVs just to get them to branch out from the same top few brands, but they dropped off the list due to lack of interest. Now I'm voting for Ultradynamico tires.
BRR just tested the Ultradynamico Cava Race in 33-622. They confirm the tire is made by Panaracer and compare it to RH tires.

TLDR: high price, low rolling resistance, low weight, low puncture resistance, low wet grip.

I expect the Soma SV would test similarly.

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RideWithPride
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#13Jun 15, 2023, 2:36 PM
Which version of the SV we talking about the SL or the EX?
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stu
646 posts
#14Jun 15, 2023, 3:48 PM
RideWithPride wrote:
Which version of the SV we talking about the SL or the EX?
I've personally used the EX. The only difference is tread thickness so after a little wear the EX should become the SL.

IMHO the SV is lot like the RH tires - light, supple, fast rolling, no puncture protection. In the larger sizes (42 and 48 mm) I noticed some directional instability and sensitivity to pressure on pavement. I didn't have those issues with the 38 mm RH Extralight or the 44 mm RH Endurance but the SV costs a lot less.
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RideWithPride
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#15Jun 16, 2023, 12:51 PMedited
Have you tried the more durable version the Shinkiro(sp?) version? I am thinking about getting the 42mm Power Adventure or 45mm Cinturato All-Road front with either the 42mm Soma(one of the tubeless versions) or 42 or 44mm Rene Herse slicks rear as my rowdy road setup Shame Soma offer more sizes & versions in tubeless.
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stu
646 posts
#16Jun 16, 2023, 2:03 PM
RideWithPride wrote:
Have you tried the more durable version the Shinkiro(sp?) version?
I have. The Shikoro is considerably heavier but still feels supple. Unfortunately it also has little resistance to glass punctures. Perhaps the casing is strong but the belt (if any) is weak. I personally have no need for a heavy, slick tire which I can't ride on the street.

One oddity is the 42 mm Shikoro has an extremely narrow tread, so narrow I wouldn't try to corner hard for fear of ending up on the sidewall. The 48 mm does not have that problem and I haven't seen the smaller sizes.

FWIW I don't think Soma has updated their tires in a long time while many other manufacturers have.
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RideWithPride
96 posts
#17Jun 17, 2023, 12:11 AM
Perfect looks like I will be going RH 42mm rear. Now to wait for the reviews for both the Power Adventure and Cinturato All-Road for the front. Going to be a boss rowdy road setup.
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stu
646 posts
#18Jun 6, 2024, 5:46 PM
I finally took a few rides on the Power Adventure in 42-622. So far all on pavement so I can't comment on dirt or gravel performance.

The tires feel pretty supple at 35 to 40 psi and I've noticed no flaws in handling on pavement. They are a bit noisy on pavement with any texture but not bothersome. BRR rated rolling resistance pretty decent, in my measurement-free opinion it's fine but not in the the GP5000 league. BRR found excellent (by gravel standards) wet grip and puncture resistance, I haven't put those to the test. Weight is commendably light for such a big tire.

To me these look like a good option for a lot of miles on bad pavement or possibly any surface which doesn't need big knobs. I'd say better than a (slick) GravelKing and I paid only $40 each at BikeINN.
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stu
646 posts
#19Jun 8, 2024, 2:52 PM
Today I got to ride the Power Adventure on some hard dirt with a few rocks. Stable and comfortable. Can't comment on speed because I'm still in the rehab phase after knee surgery.
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