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ridemagnetic wrote:Yes and yes.
https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/collections/cyclocross-road/products/elliptical-110-bcd-asymmetric-4-bolt-for-shimano-cranks
https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/collections/chainring-bolts/products/set-of-4-chainring-bolts-nuts-for-1x
Thanks - I've already ordered both the 40 tooth drop-stop and shorter bolts from Wolftooth. A couple of points I'd like to add:
- I sent an email to Wolftooth sales at 9:30 EDT. I received a reply from Todd at Wolftooth about 10P EDT. That confirms what I've heard here and elsewhere about Wolftooth responsive customer support.
- I've also posted negative comments about 1x, here as well as on Gravel Cyclist. I'll confess, when it comes to bike tech., I'm sometimes fickle. I still feel that some manufactures are over hyping and pushing 1x. Often a 2x setup makes more sense for an all purpose bike, and I resent when a manufacturer doesn't give the rider a choice. I'll admit that my interest in 1x came about because I have to re-build my Swiss Cross with old components lying around my garage. My new bike from 44 Bikes may not be available for an upcoming gravel event on - The Rose Mountain Rumble - on Aug. 26.
- A 1x build is easier than a 2x. Getting a front der. setup and adjusted is often a PITA for a home mechanic. Not a big deal - but I'm in a rush.
- Kris Henry of 44 Bikes has 1x on most of his bikes. Kris told me that many of his customer builds go out the door with 1x.
- For riding the dirt roads alone around here, with lots of short steep hills (nothing is flat in Hillsborough County NH), you are either grinding up a steep poorly graded patch, or flying down, holding on for dear life.
- I was very impressed with the Wolftooth website. A lot more real data and info., than you'll find on other manufacturer's websites. These folks ride what they sell; and really believe in their products. It's nice to support a dedicated US company.
- The cost of the drop-stop setup for me is far less than buying lots of new components. While Wolftooth recommends using a clutch der. Kris assured me that for the type of riding I do, my Ultegra 6800 GS rear der. will work very well with the Drop-stop, with minimal risk of dropping my chain.
ridemagnetic wrote:I don't think there's much over-hyping at all, other than the usual marking shtik. Sure people got really excited about it and even called for the death of the front derailleur, but ultimately all we're looking at is another drivetrain option. Some like it, some don't. Good to have options at least. I have both, time and a place.
Volsung wrote:Here ya go Bob-
https://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Mechanical_Groupsets/athena_triple/road
Volsung wrote: m on my phone so I can't copy paste super easily, but dig around on Merlin. They don't have a complete groupset, but it doesn't sound like you need that anyway. https://www.merlincycles.com/campagnolo-athena-silver-pt-triple-chainset-11-speed-97397.html?utm_campaign=googlebase-US&utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=shopping&utm_term=Road+Bike+Chainsets&ucpo=37005&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuPKqkfbe1QIV27rACh18SgQeEAQYASABEgLh7vD_BwE[/QUOTE]
Wow - $81 for the crankset! I'm no planning on buying these for any of my rides; but if they have reasonably price triple der.'s and brake shifters in the Athena group, it might be a good drive train for a future build. I could easily see matching this group set with an 11-32 11 speed cog. Fantastic range and utility, depending on terrain. On rolling courses you ride the middle chainring almost all day.
Volsung wrote:I apparently can't post well on my phone either.
Ride- I'm running 1x11 Campy on my Otso right now. It's pretty sweet, but I'm not sure if I prefer it to my older Ultegra setup, mainly because Campy hoods are a bit too small for my hands.
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