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Jim_H wrote:I'm hoping for something 650b friendly (as an option), which is something the Warbird can't do.\n \nCan't you run 650b, pretty much, on any disc frame? Maybe no 52mm, but still. \n
Trek has lot's of race bikes. I'm hoping they go full-on adventure bike.
A bonus would be a seat tube that can accommodate a MTB FD as well (even clamp on), as that is a nice option as well.
DrBagg wrote: Can't you run 650b, pretty much, on any disc frame? Maybe no 52mm, but still.
Jim_H wrote:\n \nAh...good points.
You probably can run 650b on most disc bikes, but you don't really get any advantage on some of them (like the Warbird) because of the chainstay shape.
The idea of the having 650b is so you can run wider tires than you can on 700c. This assumes the chainstay shape supports this.
On some bikes, the chainstays actually get narrower as they move away from the bottom bracket, meaning that you can't get wider tires on the 650b wheels.
The Warbird was on my shortlist of new bikes this offseason, but after seeing them in the local shop, and discussing wheel options, I elimated it when I realized I couldn't run 650b with anything wider than about 35c or so.
Rashad F wrote:In theory, yes, but it reportedly negatively affects handling on some bikes that weren't built for smaller wheels. For instance, Trek pretty much strongly discourages purchasers from using 650b wheels on the Crockett.
Scroll down to the Q & A:
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/road-bikes/cyclocross-bikes/crockett/crockett-7-disc/p/2495000-2018/[/QUOTE] \n \nGood to know
Mr E wrote:
Imagine staggered chain stays, stranglehold dropouts, dual IsoSpeed.
I'm thinking (hoping) Cutthroat rival
Crockett & Boone are already close to Warbird.
I check Trek daily.
idozen13 wrote:
and hopefully a Threaded BB...
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That really got me laughing! I saw Specialized went back to threaded for some of their mtb's and Chris King proposed a the new threaded T47 which essentially is a threaded oversized BB. T47 has the advantages of the large diameter hollow axle, more bearings, but preserving the simple and reliable threaded installation.Jim_H wrote:I've given up hope of manufacturers ever going back to threaded BB's on 'performance' bikes.
I've given in to just installing threaded BB/Adapters from Enduro Bearing/WheelsMfg/Praxis, etc... They seem to do the trick.