Ican GRAVEL BIKE FRAME GRA02

Has anyone built with Ican GRAVEL BIKE FRAME GRA02?  
http://www.icanbikes.com/html/Cross_Country/266.html

A very striking resemblance to my Jamis Renegade Elite.

ReverendWrong wrote:A very striking resemblance to my Jamis Renegade Elite.

Geometry chart doesn't match though.

Thanks for sharing your info on this bike! You seem to be the only guy on the interwebs that has posted about the GRA02. This frame seems to be dwarfed by the Carbonda CFR505. Any updates, pics, and ride impressions?

What axle pitch did you use, I'm looking for a good lightweight axle. How long did your rear brake cable have to be?  I have a 58cm frame on order, working on a top-notch build. I'll post up on MTBR, Chinertown, and this forum once I get a chance to build it in, ride it, and get some solid impressions. ICAN has been a pleasure to work with.

Follow up post on the ICAN GRA02.  So far I've put about 400 miles on the bike in both gravel mode and road mode.  During the early spring when my road group pace isn't so fast I put 28c road tires on and took it out on road rides.  Longest ride was 60ish miles.  Loved every minute of it.  It is very comfortable (especially with the 28c tires) and fast enough to keep up with the group.  I still pull it out for rainy weather and slower recovery rides. 

In gravel mode I put on 35c Schwalbe gravel tires and take it on our forest path trails.  Keep in mind this is just crushed limestone stuff and you could realistically ride on road tires but in some areas there are numerous twist and turns so some knobs on the side help.  It rides and handles great.  I previously used a cross bike with a much more aggressive geometry and this handles almost as well on the turns but is smoother with the longer wheelbase.

The frame and fork have been solid and I have nothing to complain about.  Only thing to mention is that the chainstays bulge out a bit and I tend to strike the heel of my shoe on the right chainstay.  I also do this on my road bike so it isn't totally the GRA02's fault but I do it more often on this bike.  I also have size 12 shoes.

Changes to build since last post:
Shimano R8000 52/34 crank/chainrings (yes I replaced the 36 with a 34)
Shimano R8000 front derailleur
Shimano R8000 long cage derailleur is going on soon so I can accommodate a 30+ cassette since I plan to take this to the Rockies in a few weeks
As mentioned I have 28c road tires on the ICAN wheelset and I also use a shallower alloy wheelset that I have gravel tires mounted.

Previous weight was with the Clement 40c tires.  With the 28c tires it weighs an even 19lbs including pedals and bottle cages.   With Mercury alloy wheels and Schwalbe 35c gravel tires With the ICAN carbon wheels and Vittoria 28c road tires             I've put 40c tires on but I bet you could go bigger,  There is tons of clearance.

sissypants: I tried to measure the thread pitch to buy an axle for my trainer but got it wrong.  I would ask ICAN.  I didn't measure the brake hose before install but I just estimated now and I would guess >60 inches.

That's awesome!  I love build, the paint scheme, the two wheelsets that complement each other nicely, and the overall looks of the bike.  Maybe the head tube area looks a little awkward, but I'm sure I can get over that.

Glad to hear its been riding well for you.  Shoe strikes always happen.  Part of it is just how you fit into the pedals and keeping consistent form.  I'm also super stoked to see all that tire clearance, I'm definitely looking forward to running 27.5x2.35 tires this winter.  I'll be running Maxxis Rambler 700Cx38 for now though.  We tend to have pretty loose gravel on the roads where I ride (west Michigan).

I have been disappointed how my paint scheme turned out. The colors aren't the way it looked on the screen, and a gradient I ordered for the top of the top tube came out pretty abrupt, not gradual. Future note to self is pick an amazing color and just do a solid-color paint job. Should be shipping shortly, though.

kcikram wrote:Follow up post on the ICAN GRA02.  So far I've put about 400 miles on the bike in both gravel mode and road mode.

I just posted on my build as well, it's been a lot of fun!

http://ridinggravel.forumchitchat.com/post/ican-gra02-gravel-bike-frame-9838498?pid=1305338699#post1305338699

Is ICAN related to Yishun? Cause this bike looks identical to Yishun's G010-D (https://www.yishunbike.com/gravel-bike-frame-with-disc-brake-carbon-bicycle-frame-g010-d_p47.html), right down to the seemingly erroneous seat post length in the geometry charts.

It looks like a cool bike, I just ask cause I am curious about ICAN's claim in the other post that the frame was 'designed in-house'.

ERQ wrote:Is ICAN related to Yishun? Cause this bike looks identical to Yishun's G010-D (https://www.yishunbike.com/gravel-bike-frame-with-disc-brake-carbon-bicycle-frame-g010-d_p47.html), right down to the seemingly erroneous seat post length in the geometry charts.

It looks like a cool bike, I just ask cause I am curious about ICAN's claim in the other post that the frame was 'designed in-house'.

I'm really not sure, but I believe you are correct that Yishun is marketing products from the same mold!  

It was my thought that ICAN designed this frame in-house, because they have done so for other frames in their line-up and I couldn't find this frame from other suppliers (failed to check Yishunbike).

I'm curious, somebody go find out!

Another update.  Took the GRA02 to Rocky Mountain National Park and ascended the Old Fall River Road (~9000ft - 12,000) which is gravel and descended on the Trail Ridge Road which is pavement.  Did it on Conti GP4000ii 28C tires.  Tires were more than enough for an uphill gravel climb but would have been dicey to use for downhill.  I chose these more for the downhill pavement which was fast, averaging close to 40mph (would have been faster but held up by those darn cars!).  Overall the bike was awesome.  Comfy and good climber and stable and never skittish on the descent.  Obviously the disc brakes were great.  Still no regrets and loving the bike.  Also get a lot of compliments.

kcikram wrote:Another update.  Took the GRA02 to Rocky Mountain National Park and ascended the Old Fall River Road (~9000ft - 12,000) which is gravel and descended on the Trail Ridge Road which is pavement.  

That's awesome, I was eyeing exactly the same route to squeeze into a vacation but ended up doing Mt. Mitchell and Appalachians instead--closer. You must be really in shape to handle the altitude.

You thought 28C was good enough on that gravel road?  That seems mighty skinny.  Anything will go downhill on pavement though, I ran 38C Ramblers when I did Mt. Mitchell and still got close to 40mph quite often, although nothing is quite as open and smooth as Trail Ridge Road.  Beautiful alpine landscape up there!!

You thought 28C was good enough on that gravel road?  That seems mighty skinny.  Anything will go downhill on pavement though, I ran 38C Ramblers when I did Mt. Mitchell and still got close to 40mph quite often, although nothing is quite as open and smooth as Trail Ridge Road.  Beautiful alpine landscape up there!!

Yeah but I should give more details.  After a few dry weeks it rained the day before our ride which was enough moisture to firm up the loose sections but not so much to make it slick.  For the most part it was hard packed with a few spots with water or loose gravel but when you are ascending you can easily adjust your line.  Fall River road is one way up so I knew we were going to come down Trail Ridge road so I optimized for the descent.   Downhill on Fall River at any speed you would want more tire to avoid flying off a switchback!  I was impressed at how well the GRA02 handled the speed and turns on the descent.  Maybe you found the same thing on Mt. Mitchell in the Appalachians?

BTW: I rode the BRP and Mt. Mitchell a few years ago and it was fabulous.  Not the high mountain alpine roads of CO but also beautiful and just as challenging

Good gravel bike ，i found that it is not available for sale at ICAN NOW