On-One Bish Bash Bosh

I think there is an important difference between carbon frame "knock off's" and carbon frames made in Asia or China.  With knock offs, fraud is intentional, so why would or should quality be adhered to?  

Most carbon frames are now made in China and Taiwan.  All the brands we know, and all the other ones we don't, and in the same factories.  An unbranded or unfamiliar brand doesn't have to be suspect.  Our big, trusted brands have had plenty of failures and warranty claims.  Don't forget when you buy your bike or frame, that you are paying for marketing, advertising, rent, insurance, employee benefits, lawyers, yada yada.  This is where the real price difference lies.

Planet X/On one offers 2 year warranty and crash replacement discount, also.  My .02.

Also, except for direct sales, I'd put them in a different class than Bikes Direct.

I think On One is a good brand.  I have had a Pompino (single speed, steel, cross bike) that I have used for my urban bike for several years.    The ride is great,  workmanship is great,  company is great to deal with.  I really like their bikes and a lot of their bikes seem to hit the niche markets that a lot of the other manufacturers are just now starting to explore.   They always have good deals.   

oleritter wrote:I think there is an important difference between carbon frame "knock off's" and carbon frames made in Asia or China.  With knock offs, fraud is intentional, so why would or should quality be adhered to?  

Most carbon frames are now made in China and Taiwan.  All the brands we know, and all the other ones we don't, and in the same factories.  An unbranded or unfamiliar brand doesn't have to be suspect.  Our big, trusted brands have had plenty of failures and warranty claims.  Don't forget when you buy your bike or frame, that you are paying for marketing, advertising, rent, insurance, employee benefits, lawyers, yada yada.  This is where the real price difference lies.

Planet X/On one offers 2 year warranty and crash replacement discount, also.  My .02.

Also, except for direct sales, I'd put them in a different class than Bikes Direct.

I believe that most of what you say is correct - except the assumption that because a manufacturer isn't making a knock off, he will be more honest in making a no-name brand to be sold at a much lower price than his name brand products. My point earlier, is that without independent testing, you simply don't know what you are buying. Nor, for that matter, who you can seek damages from should a defective or substandard frame or fork fails, and causes serious injuries. Is paying a higher price for a name brand product worth it? Maybe not. But like they say in Rome - Caveat Emptor!

I have put 1000 miles on the bike so far, and I thought I would share my thoughts.

It took me a while to get the fit just right and to find the right saddle (Phenom Comp).  I am 5'9 3/4", so right at the line of a 52 cm and 54 cm.  I picked the 52 cm.  The frames seems to fit as I am able to take 3 or 4 hour rides without pain.  I am happy with the frame.

I did cover the cables with some housing, but I found the front derailleur housing filled up with junk and it froze the cable.  I was no longer able to change from the big gear to the small gear in the front.  So I replaced that cable and did not put any housing on the bottom.  I rode this weekend and had no cable issues.  The ride was on wet gravel roads.  The review below has a very good picture of the routing from the factory, and they do not put any housing on the cables.

I am using TRP HY/RD brakes.  The rear cable housing really needed to be compressionless housing.   I ran normal brake housing for the first three month, but the compressionless housing make a world of difference in the back.  I am happy with the brake performance in the front with normal brake cable housing.  I am having issue with the rear brake cables freeze when the temperature is below 30 degrees F.  I don't think that has anything to do with the frame; however, because you have to use cable housing from front to back, if there is any moisture in the housing, then it will freeze along the bottom.  On the frame, it is designed for a 140 mm rotor on the rear (the front is designed for 160).  You will need an adapter if you buy 160 mm rotor (like I did because their website said it takes 160).

Here is a more recent review.  http://www.cyclist.co.uk/reviews/2332/on-one-bish-bash-bosh-review

honda0059 wrote:Hi, Nice looking bike, and one that I seriously considering for my riding in Australia.

The only thing that's holding me back is that I would like to run a slightly wider tire than the suggested 40mm and I was wondering if the WTB Horizon tire (650b x 47c) would fit. From the pictures I've seen I think the main concern would be with the clearance on the chainstays. Do you think the WTB Horizon may fit?

I'm going to say 650b x 42 max giving you some mud clearance.  Don't think Horizon's will be a go, mate.

  I wrote up a bit of a review on my Bish Bash Bosh on my blog. https://millcitycycle.wordpress.com/2017/03/07/new-bike-day/
Yes, I went for the loud and garish fun color.  I couldn't resist the Di2 hydraulic, and it's pretty awesome.  More rides needed, but I am really liking this bike.

Nice builds guys. \n \n@oleritter, I'll keep an eye out for you and the Orange BBB rolling in MN. I built up a green BBB over the winter, not nearly as nice as what you did but I still am loving mine all the same. \n \n

HandsomeCyclist wrote:Nice builds guys. @oleritter, I'll keep an eye out for you and the Orange BBB rolling in MN. I built up a green BBB over the winter, not nearly as nice as what you did but I still am loving mine all the same.

Ha!  Under the High Bridge?  My photo was taken not far from there, too, looking down from up in the park.  That will be fun to run into you some day.

Interesting frame and some nice builds shown. Question to those riding these bikes, how is the fork compliance? Stiffness seems to be the prime focus of many CX and gravel carbon forks with compliance over rocks and ruts taking a back seat to steering control.

I'm just a few rides in on mine, and don't know if I can speak specifically to the fork yet, but overall this bike is feeling very comfy to me and I guess you would say compliant.    I've done mostly paved road riding, but I've hit trails and gravel every chance I've gotten, and it rides nicely everywhere I've taken it thus far.  

I can add more in about a week.