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Xroads wrote:The other option is to go wth the Jamis renegade exploit. It has the tire clearance. It's a steel frame with a carbon fork. They claim 23 pounds on the web site. That's about the same as the Willard but not as light as the BMC.
Xroads wrote:Keepamonte, what does your Exploit weigh? I am curious on the actual weight. Thanks for the info!\n \nOut of the box with pedals and cages it was right at 24lbs. I have since dropped some custom wheels and need to reweigh her. I will put that on my to do list!
keepamonte wrote:\n\nOut of the box with pedals and cages it was right at 24lbs. I have since dropped some custom wheels and need to reweigh her. I will put that on my to do list!\n\nThanks for the info. 24 pounds is two pounds lighter than my current bike.\n\nMy LBS ended up ordering a Granfondo for another customer. He let me ride the bike. We also tried the Schwalbe G-one 38 in it. It fit in, but there was no clearance. So, it's not useable. It fit the Clement xplorer ush 35 fine. That's all the the large tires he had to try. \n\nThe BMC was a nice ride. It weighed 21.5 pounds with pedals and the Continental 32 tires. It accelerated very well and I thought it was smooth riding. However, the geometry of the BMC is different than the Jamis. The stack on the Jamis is higher. I didn't think the BMC was as comfortable. Perhaps a fit would take care of that. \n\nI am leaning to going with another Jamis. The BMC is nice and light, but the tire limitation and geometry are a big negative.\n\nHaven't had a chance to check out a Willard. I did ride a Tamland. It was nice, but it was heavy.
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