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Gasman wrote:It has to be steel as this will also be my winter bike and I dont love the ride of AL on the road (my MTB is AL which is fine in the woods with 2.5’s).Have you considered titanium? It costs more than steel but is a bit lighter and more corrosion resistant. You can get the compliance you want because Ti doesn't need to be made stiff like Al.
Gasman wrote:Yes defiantly, to expensive though.....at least not until I sell two bikes! Ive always wanted to try Ti and need to find a way to ride it. There really are a lot of mixed reviews in the sense that tires make the biggest difference so if you have 40’s or so you cant really tell. I’m thinking I don't want wider then 32’s or so for this bike as it will be mostly a road bike.I've been happy riding 42 to 48 mm tires mostly on the road. They're a little heavier and less aerodynamic than 32 mm tires but I'm not fast enough to notice those differences. But if you're talking about a racing 32 mm like the GP5000 then the differences would be larger. That said, the wider tires are certainly more comfortable.
Skldmark wrote:Did you consider another All-City like the Cosmic Stallion?DEFINITELY! I love the purple Stallion, but I think the geo is a little to racy....I thought thats their cross race bike? I was looking at a Zig Zag as well.
Gasman wrote:DEFINITELY! I love the purple Stallion, but I think the geo is a little to racy....I thought thats their cross race bike? I was looking at a Zig Zag as well.Cosmic Stallion is all-road, optimized around 700c clearance (up to 47c). Whereas it will accept 650b up to ~42.
stu wrote:I've been happy riding 42 to 48 mm tires mostly on the road. They're a little heavier and less aerodynamic than 32 mm tires but I'm not fast enough to notice those differences. But if you're talking about a racing 32 mm like the GP5000 then the differences would be larger. That said, the wider tires are certainly more comfortable.. No I wasn’t thinking of the GP, in fact I’m putting a pair of the GP5000 TL on my road bike in a 28 (max width it will take 🙁 ) I’m.a fan of wider tires but have a set of 38MM GravelKings. I took them off my Orbea Gain as they were way to slow and sloggy to me. Maybe it is the tire. What tires in 42 are you using?
Gasman wrote:.I’m.a fan of wider tires but have a set of 38MM GravelKings. I took them off my Orbea Gain as they were way to slow and sloggy to me. Maybe it is the tire. What tires in 42 are you using?I've used Soma Supple Vitesse, Soma Shikoro, and Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass (44 mm) Endurance. The Supple Vitesse is probably faster than a GravelKing slick, the Shikoro is probably not. I'm not sure about the Rene Herse tires, probably depends on the casing. I've settled on the Shikoro since I got too many flats with the others.
Gasman wrote:Selling a few bikes and looking at getting a road bike to ride some gravel. The Surly Hot Mayonnaise Midnight Special looked to be ideal for what I wanted. I prefer a 2x set up and want to have a stack that puts me in a nice upright position. I built up a Goriulla Monsoon that was a beast, but really dont live near enough gravel so I sold it as it was more of a drop bar MTB. I have the lightweight ready bike and a FS MTB so i want the bridge bike to ride miles from the house to some light gravel. It has to be steel as this will also be my winter bike and I dont love the ride of AL on the road (my MTB is AL which is fine in the woods with 2.5’s). Leftover MS with the 2x set up appears to be perfect but hard to find (like all bikes) but they are out there. Any other ideas, recommendations? Txs from a relative newbie.
The Surly Hot Mayonnaise Midnight Special is a hell of a bike. However, I would also recommend the Orbea's Terra M20-D1x.