I was about to order 696 and the 707 seems to be worth the extra wait (it's also off-season coming up in Europe) so really looking forward to ordering this frame as soon as they start taking orders. Any info on the frame weight? 696 was on the heavier side when considering carbon gravel frames.
Thanks @Colt__Seavers for posting this. I'm new to the forum. I have been looking getting a new gravel bike and was settling on building up my own. I liked the Carbonda 696 but this 707 really seems to fit the bill for me:
Love the full internal routing
Don't like the water bottle mounts. As others were saying, the regular placement is far better allowing the frame bag to fit in.
Instead place an additional bottle mount UNDER the top-tube. This would allow the attachment of frame bag without straps or another bottle.
Just a question which I never really did understand nor figure it out, what or how would a drop seat stay benefit gravel riders? Is it purely only for aesthetics?
I have been writing to Wing and she says the design has been confirmed with updated bottle mounts and now the correct 142mm rear hub width (as earlier drawings stated 135mm). There are two models of 707, one where the cable is outside the stem for use with any handlebar; and one where it is fully inside the stem and you purchase the integrated handlebar, stem, headset from Carbonda - great for Di2 which is what I am planning.
Option 1: Cabling External to Stem You can see the cable holes on the frame and fork Option 2: Cable Inside Stem This is how it would work. I note that it is different to the FSA ACR system.
I would have loved to see a Di2 junction box amount on the downtube but I don't think there's one there. So it would have to go in the handlebar.
I'm glad I got the 505 before it got discontinued. Don't like the looks of this one at all. Weird lines. I'd rather get the 696 if I'd need a new frame. The bottles cage points like really weird. They're great on the 505 IMO. Also looks horrible with skinny tires, so you really need to run the 707 with big fat tires. I still don't understand why they made the bad deal for the 505, the 707 doesn't come close at all, or doesn't look like a combination of the 505 and 696.
iliew wrote:I have been writing to Wing and she says the design has been confirmed with updated bottle mounts and now the correct 142mm rear hub width (as earlier drawings stated 135mm). There are two models of 707, one where the cable is outside the stem for use with any handlebar; and one where it is fully inside the stem and you purchase the integrated handlebar, stem, headset from Carbonda - great for Di2 which is what I am planning.
Option 1: Cabling External to Stem You can see the cable holes on the frame and fork Option 2: Cable Inside Stem This is how it would work. I note that it is different to the FSA ACR system.
I would have loved to see a Di2 junction box amount on the downtube but I don't think there's one there. So it would have to go in the handlebar.
Geometry
Got the same info recently. Good to see that Wing is spreading it to more info channel's, so it end up here. Will update the first post referring to yours.
Gerben321 wrote:I'm glad I got the 505 before it got discontinued. Don't like the looks of this one at all. Weird lines. I'd rather get the 696 if I'd need a new frame. The bottles cage points like really weird. They're great on the 505 IMO. Also looks horrible with skinny tires, so you really need to run the 707 with big fat tires. I still don't understand why they made the bad deal for the 505, the 707 doesn't come close at all, or doesn't look like a combination of the 505 and 696.
We think the same. The 505 was ideal for skinny tires and also up to 43mm. The 707 only looks nice with wide tires. I was hoping for a OPEN WIDE like design instead
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