Under the tube bag versus rear trunk bag

drwelby wrote: 


This little dealio. It mounts under your water bottle cage. It's included with the pump.

Thanks for that info. So then it bolts to one side of your water bottle cage or is it small enough to fit under the cages. Still the newbie here and trying to get all my duckies lined up in a row as I only have a month to get use to the bike before the Farmer's Daughter and want my 1st gravel grinder to be fun and not a Death March.


Zman

You mount it under the water bottle cage on the same bolts like this (though this pump is much longer):

Thanks for that info I just read the story on the 12 dirty dozen riders with the new Lauf Grit fork and saw a pic there of that pump on the bike. Thanks though

Zman

I think you'll like the frame bag.  I love mine.  I have two revelate bags and a J&D (shown above).  
They keep the bike well balanced and things accessible.   I've put 10lbs in my frame with no problems, but hanging weight out over the rear can make some wonky handling. Sooner or later I would end up braking one of those huge sized seat bags.

Also tried a frame pack and knees rubbed due to a narrow pedaling stroke \n \nCurrently switching between a small under seat bullet pack with basic tire repair and multitool for local rides when I can phone a friend if the SHTF \n \nWhen riding in other parts of the country those rides are typically pretty rural with no friends to phone or at altitude where the weather can change significantly I use a JPaks GravelPak which expands via roll up like a traditional bike packing seat bag. Then it gets packed with more essentials, mother of all multitool, gorilla tape, extra tube, sealant, etc to get rolling through most likely failure scenarios and add in a little first aid, clothes food, emergency blanket. \n \nIt is durable and expandable, mine has held up great with no issues with a lot of weight bouncing aroun. And when fully loaded and unrolled it's a poor mans rear fender \n \nWhich leads to what I would change, it's not totally waterproof but it's also not a Bounty paper towel but stuff will get wet with extended exposure to water spray. Also wish I could change the shape of the stuff I carry to fit the tapered front better. And last is the buckle system for the seat rails which is very durable but tough to get the buckles out from the rails on my particular seat which is not at all an issue if you leave the GravelPak on the bike, but typically when I am using it is when traveling and it comes on/off the bike a lot and stays with me. \n \nWith all seat bags heavily loaded at that COG can cause sway when riding technical singletrack. \n \nJpak Gravelpak is a dude in Denver \n \nmo

Ok so I watched some video clips of the Pony Express 120. I probably saw at less 30 bikes climbing a pretty big hill. I didn't see one tangle/under the frame bag on any of the bikes. If the weather conditions I guess are good do most riders just take the chance and travel as light as they can. It kind of surprised me.

Thanks
Zman

For longer races - a tube top bag is used by many as it has easy access to gu, gels, bars and quick energy.
For longer touring - a frame bag provides extra storage and easy access without stopping.
under the seat bag and a frame bag together can give a lot of storage for light touring, without adding to wind resistance.

Personally, I've started using a product called UCan that gives a steady supply of energy with now spikes for several hours.  There has never been anything like that on the market (most products are gone through your system in an hour, and doubling the dose just leads to a spike - with this one, doubling the dose double the time it lasts in your system).

For longer races - a tube top bag is used by many as it has easy access to gu, gels, bars and quick energy.
For longer touring - a frame bag provides extra storage and easy access without stopping.
under the seat bag and a frame bag together can give a lot of storage for light touring, without adding to wind resistance.

Personally, I've started using a product called UCan that gives a steady supply of energy with now spikes for several hours.  There has never been anything like that on the market (most products are gone through your system in an hour, and doubling the dose just leads to a spike - with this one, doubling the dose double the time it lasts in your system).